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Coaching & Tips : How to get into the Zone

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Author: hunkeelin
Subject: How to get into the Zone
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 1:22am

Don't worry about the zone. Unless we are talking about WR players zone is more often bad than good for us ameture. Why is that you say? Yes sure sometimes during rare occurrence you or your opponent gets into the zone; the problem here is, there's no way someone can sustain in the zone at our levels. They get too indulge and when they are off the zone they still think they are in the zone and start missing a bunch and lose without knowing. When I'm playing against someone who's hitting shot that's not at their level (aka they are in the zone), it's not something I'll worried about. That is because sooner or later after a few points or the next set they will start missing. On the contrary, by any chance you get into the zone you need to keep yourself in check and make sure when you are in it and when you are not. Realize asap and calm down.

Edited by hunkeelin - 2 hours 3 minutes ago at 1:24am

General : FH counterloop

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Author: blahness
Subject: FH counterloop
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 1:25am

Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

Originally posted by bard romance bard romance wrote:

Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

Hunkeelin is obviously very insecure.

When i saw a video of his play, dunning kreuger flashed strongly in my mind. 

Hes well below where he should be considering how much time hes spending. 

If he had spent just 300 hrs playing and got to his weakish regular level, id understand being happy. 

I'd actually disagree with you there. He's a pretty good player. Not sure there's any indication of how much time he is spending but what a lot of people who haven't been at that level don't realize is how much effort it requires to move up farther and farther after a certain point. 

Insecure? Far from it. If anything, too secure in the fact that his actions are "promoting TT". Some might disagree there, but to each their own.

I consider myself a barely competent player vs actual high level amateurs / student of the game, yet am pretty certain I'd beat him with ease, and would certainly outperform him if we played say 100 people over time, who are different styles and levels between 2000 and 2400. 

You need to have the mindset of a student regardless, as you need the hunger of not being the finished product. 

There are countless guys in the club that are 60 or 70, and have say played at the international level in their prime, yet still have amazing stamina, footwork. In some respects they are even sharper, as their first step is in their mind and its much faster than 99.9% of amateurs. 

Their breakdown of peoples games and styles and strengths / weaknesses is akin to how chinese nick names have no chill. 'his game too simple' etc. 

When these guys do appreciate something in your game, such as forehand variety or touch, thats something that someone that is worth a million of hunkuneels self serving posts. You treasure it, try to hone this strength and incorporate it into more and more points, whilst also improving everything else so your game is more balanced and technically sound. 

Theese guys didn't get so good ans age so well because they were the most talented and lucky guy. They got there because they were smart and maximizd their potential, even changing what it means to be old. The 70 yr old, 2 years ago got several wins against players of similar caliber to each other, and one that had played and had competitive matches against kanak jha in 2016 (3-1, deuces and aay 40 to 45 % of the pts, in world under 18 or 21 etc). A 68 yr old who plays like 12 matches, in 2 events, in 1 day, and all tge important knockout matches are b07s, and beats 3 out of 4, top level juniors. With a heart condition to boot 


Being proud of your progress and sharing achievements and progress etc is one thing what he is doing is another. Hes self fellating and telling everyone to watch and appreciate. 


This dude is pulling stuff right out of his ass lol. "Beating me with ease" <-- lolololol. Post a vid of yourself hmm? He have no idea whats my current level is at. The me right now would've destroy myself 3 month ago when I get my current rating. 

Anyways to OP. I did some counterlooping drills.
FH counter e.g 1 https://youtu.be/8Alx-D_vK-E?t=963 Most of my made shot is from a good push, but to be clear that push alone would destroy 2000~2100 players easily. My training partner which is 2050 have trouble looping that. Most of them is right off the bounce and not much big swinging. You need to keep your abs tight and move as little arm as possible, most of the movement are legs and waist. 

For big swing counter looping far the table. Here's an example https://youtu.be/5B7HsyYby7Q?t=307 again the swing looks bigger but i didn't use much arms, mostly legs and waist. I miss some because this is early in the morning and I wasn't totally awake. 


More example of FH and BH countering. It starts with a good push to setup, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZi55kKTuw4&feature=youtu.be . However, as you can witness the push is what's important, since most opponent is not going to get that over the net. (Here's a secret, pushing is what gets you over 2k, not looping XD.)

Here's proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m24iFfhaGmQ&feature=youtu.be In the practice match I did not win a single point using my FH counter looping. I did won points off BH counter looping but FH counter looping is just not apparent at the level. I only start using that against opponent of 2200+ caliber.  Against 2150- all I need to do is serve, receive, banana flick a little, loop opening, push long and point is over, not much going on for that level. I am assuming you are not at 2200+ level so just focus on those instead. 





Could you give more detailed tips on stuff that would be helpful to learn this?

General : Interview with DHS - your questions?

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Author: igorponger
Subject: Interview with DHS - your questions?
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 2:25am

DHS is going to start their own outlet on Aliexpress. ONLY genuine products directly from a factory warehouse. Good to hear.

For sale : FS: Andro Ligna All+ (Brand New Boxed)

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Author: MydasDiablo
Subject: FS: Andro Ligna All+ (Brand New Boxed)
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 2:37am

Price reduced to less than half price for a brand new blade made by Soulspin for Andro. 

For sale : FS: Stiga Dynasty Carbon ST

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Author: MydasDiablo
Subject: FS: Stiga Dynasty Carbon ST
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 2:41am

For sale is a Stiga Dynasty Carbon blade with straighthandle. Bought lightly tested from MagicM but never got around to using it. 

Koto outer ply with a very thin layer of Textreme+ Carbon and an Ayouscore. Weight is 97 grams, but surprisingly not head heavy at all, most of these come in 95+/-3 due to the thickness of the ayous core.

Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/DGEHF4E

£100 including shipping to UK, £110 worldwide.

Payment by Paypal, add 4% for fees if paying by goods and services.

PM me if interested. 

My Feedback: https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/for...53-MydasDiablo

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum...or-mydasdiablo


Description
Dynasty Carbon is the result of years of development in search of a carbonblade with the ultimate balance between classic wood feel, known as the “STIGAfeeling”, and carbon fabric development. We have developed and designed DynastyCarbon together with World- and Olympic champion Xu Xin, to create a bladeespecially for the omniscient player who masters all elements of Table Tennis.

The Dynasty Carbon uses a newly developed Swedish made and patented carbontechnology which makes the carbon fabric as stable and strong near the edges asin the middle, without affecting the overall balance and weight of the blade.This new Carbon technology is called TeXtreme+. TeXtreme+ draws from theoriginal TeXtreme Spread Tow Carbon Technology and consists of an advanced,super thin carbon fiber fabric that maximizes the strength-to-weight ratio.Dynasty Carbon Xu Xin Edition is built with a thick middle veneer whichenhances the core feeling and overall balance of the blade. The outer veneer isKoto, chosen for its quality and short in-game dwell time in comparison to moretraditional outer veneers.

This blade which combines superb touch with unbeatable power, gives you thepossibility to be as creative, technical and powerful as Xu Xin.

Offensive 5+2-ply blade.
TeXtreme+ carbon technology for increased sweet spot and stability.
Developed together with World- and Olympic champion Xu Xin.
Adapted for the ABS-ball.
Handmade in Sweden.

For sale : *FS* Yasaka/DHS/BTY CPENS, DHS Nat & Victas Rubber

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Author: schen
Subject: *FS* Yasaka/DHS/BTY CPENS, DHS Nat & Victas Rubber
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 2:41am

Another big update!  

Please take note, orders totaling over $200 will receive a 10% discount until August 1st.  

Prices have also been reduced on old stock!

Originally posted by schen schen wrote:



Current photo gallery - updated 7/27/19


Shipping:  USPS shipping in the US is free with orders $15 and over.
Payment:  Paypal Gift / Friends and Family (or +4% for buyer protection) only.

For dimensions, weight, specs, etc, please refer to the post-it notes in each photo.

Orders over $200 will receive a 10% discount until August 1st :)

PRICE LIST:

BLADES

BRAND NEW BTY Timo Boll ALC CS - 86.2g - $149 shipped

Yasaska Atletico Power CS - 86.25g - $65 shipped
Yasaska Alnade CS - 87.33g - $65 shipped
Yasaska Ma Lin Max Carbon CS - 85.66g - $29 shipped
Yasaka JTTAA Extra Offensive CS - 88.66g - $35 shipped

DHS Hurricane Long 5X CS - 87.58g - $79 shipped
DHS Hurricane King III CS #1 - 87.96g - $59 shipped
DHS Hurricane King III CS #2 - 87.00g - $59 shipped
DHS Hurricane King III CS #3 - 85.86g - $45 shipped
BRAND NEW DHS Dipper DI-UT CS - 91.36g - $39 shipped

DHS Hurricane Long 5 (#2) CS - 88g - $65 shipped
DHS Hurricane Hao 2 (#1) CS - 85g - $35 shipped
DHS Hurricane Hao 2 (#2) CS - 85g - $35 shipped

SWORD HD997 ST - 90.09g - $35 shipped


RED RUBBER | (all max thickness unless otherwise specified)

BTY Tenergy 05 - red - 160x147 - 90% - $29 shipped

Victas V>15 Stiff (#1) - 160x148 - 90% - $10
Victas V>15 Stiff (#2) - 161x147 - 90% - $10
Victas V>15 Stiff (#3) - 159x147 - 85% - $9
Victas V>15 Stiff (#4) - 160x147 - 90% - $9
Victas V>15 Stiff (#5) - 161x147 - 90% - $10
Victas V>15 Stiff (#6) - 162x148 - 85% - $21 shipped
Victas V>15 Stiff (#7) - 160x148 - 90% - $10
Victas V>15 Stiff (#8) - 161x148 - 90% - $10
Victas V>15 Stiff (#9) - 161x148 - 85% - $10

Victas V>15 Stiff (#10) - 159x148 - 90% - $10
Victas V>15 Stiff (#11) - 159x147 - 85% - $9
Victas V>15 Stiff (#12) - 157x147 - 90% - $9
Victas V>15 Stiff (#13) - 157x146 - 85% - $8

Victas V>15 Extra - red - 156x145 - 80% - $7
Victas VJC>15 Extra - red - 163x150 - 90% - $19 shipped

TIBHAR Evolution EL-P - red - 157x146 - 90% - 15 shipped
YASAKA Mark V - red - 158x149 - 80% - $10
BRAND NEW YASAKA Shining Dragon - red - $25 shipped

Friendship 802 - 1.5mm - red - 159x150 - 95% - $5
Friendship 802-40 - 1.8mm - red - 160x157 - 95% - $6

DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/37d (#1) - red - 159x146 - 80% - $10
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/37d (#2) - red - 163x151 - 80% - $15 shipped
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/37d (#3) - red - 163x150 - 80% - $15 shipped
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/37d (#4) - red - 164x152 - 85% - $17 shipped
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO Provincial 2.1/37d - red - 162x148 - 80% - $10


BLACK RUBBER | (all max thickness, cpen FH cut unless otherwise specified)

DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/39d Blue Sponge (#1) - 140x147 - 60% - $10
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/39d Blue Sponge (#2) - 141x148 - 60% - $10

DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/40d Blue Sponge (#1) - 148x149 - 60% - $12
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/40d Blue Sponge (#2) - 148x150 - 75% - $15 shipped
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/41d Blue Sponge (#1) - 140x150 - 65% - $12
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/41d Blue Sponge (#2) - 145x150 - 75% - $15 shipped
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National 2.1/41d Blue Sponge (#3) - 147x150 - 60% - $12

DHS Skyline 2 Provincial No.22 Blue Sponge (non-NEO) - BRAND NEW - $35 shipped
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO Provincial Blue Sponge (#1) - 143x150 - 85% - $9
DHS Hurricane 3 NEO Provincial Blue Sponge (#2) - 147x149 - 80% - $10

VICTAS VJC>07 Sticky Extra - black - 143x151 - 90% - $15 shipped
VICTAS V>15 Extra - black - 139x149 - 90% - $15 shipped

YASAKA Mark V - black - 156x149 (shakehand cut) - 80% - $10



Edited by schen - 37 minutes ago at 2:50am

General : FH counterloop

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Author: hunkeelin
Subject: FH counterloop
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 2:51am

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

Originally posted by bard romance bard romance wrote:

Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

Hunkeelin is obviously very insecure.

When i saw a video of his play, dunning kreuger flashed strongly in my mind. 

Hes well below where he should be considering how much time hes spending. 

If he had spent just 300 hrs playing and got to his weakish regular level, id understand being happy. 

I'd actually disagree with you there. He's a pretty good player. Not sure there's any indication of how much time he is spending but what a lot of people who haven't been at that level don't realize is how much effort it requires to move up farther and farther after a certain point. 

Insecure? Far from it. If anything, too secure in the fact that his actions are "promoting TT". Some might disagree there, but to each their own.

I consider myself a barely competent player vs actual high level amateurs / student of the game, yet am pretty certain I'd beat him with ease, and would certainly outperform him if we played say 100 people over time, who are different styles and levels between 2000 and 2400. 

You need to have the mindset of a student regardless, as you need the hunger of not being the finished product. 

There are countless guys in the club that are 60 or 70, and have say played at the international level in their prime, yet still have amazing stamina, footwork. In some respects they are even sharper, as their first step is in their mind and its much faster than 99.9% of amateurs. 

Their breakdown of peoples games and styles and strengths / weaknesses is akin to how chinese nick names have no chill. 'his game too simple' etc. 

When these guys do appreciate something in your game, such as forehand variety or touch, thats something that someone that is worth a million of hunkuneels self serving posts. You treasure it, try to hone this strength and incorporate it into more and more points, whilst also improving everything else so your game is more balanced and technically sound. 

Theese guys didn't get so good ans age so well because they were the most talented and lucky guy. They got there because they were smart and maximizd their potential, even changing what it means to be old. The 70 yr old, 2 years ago got several wins against players of similar caliber to each other, and one that had played and had competitive matches against kanak jha in 2016 (3-1, deuces and aay 40 to 45 % of the pts, in world under 18 or 21 etc). A 68 yr old who plays like 12 matches, in 2 events, in 1 day, and all tge important knockout matches are b07s, and beats 3 out of 4, top level juniors. With a heart condition to boot 


Being proud of your progress and sharing achievements and progress etc is one thing what he is doing is another. Hes self fellating and telling everyone to watch and appreciate. 


This dude is pulling stuff right out of his ass lol. "Beating me with ease" <-- lolololol. Post a vid of yourself hmm? He have no idea whats my current level is at. The me right now would've destroy myself 3 month ago when I get my current rating. 

Anyways to OP. I did some counterlooping drills.
FH counter e.g 1 https://youtu.be/8Alx-D_vK-E?t=963 Most of my made shot is from a good push, but to be clear that push alone would destroy 2000~2100 players easily. My training partner which is 2050 have trouble looping that. Most of them is right off the bounce and not much big swinging. You need to keep your abs tight and move as little arm as possible, most of the movement are legs and waist. 

For big swing counter looping far the table. Here's an example https://youtu.be/5B7HsyYby7Q?t=307 again the swing looks bigger but i didn't use much arms, mostly legs and waist. I miss some because this is early in the morning and I wasn't totally awake. 


More example of FH and BH countering. It starts with a good push to setup, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZi55kKTuw4&feature=youtu.be . However, as you can witness the push is what's important, since most opponent is not going to get that over the net. (Here's a secret, pushing is what gets you over 2k, not looping XD.)

Here's proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m24iFfhaGmQ&feature=youtu.be In the practice match I did not win a single point using my FH counter looping. I did won points off BH counter looping but FH counter looping is just not apparent at the level. I only start using that against opponent of 2200+ caliber.  Against 2150- all I need to do is serve, receive, banana flick a little, loop opening, push long and point is over, not much going on for that level. I am assuming you are not at 2200+ level so just focus on those instead. 





Could you give more detailed tips on stuff that would be helpful to learn this?

To do what? FH counter loop or everything else? Hate to break it to you, you are not going to learn anything over the net. You have to pay for coaching there's no way out of it. I can however teach you how to discern real coach and wannabe coach. Table tennis is a world wide sport, you don't need an english speaking coach to coach you, if you can find a chinese coach (ones that barely speak english and at least usatt 2400+) they are guarentee good coach. My advice, avoid english speaking coaches, most of them are wannabe and doesn't teach you jack ***t.  

Tell me where you located and I can tell you which coach are good. You can also pay classically train kids to train you, they are english speaking and good coaches too. They are young and cheap. 


Edited by hunkeelin - 35 minutes ago at 2:52am

Coaching & Tips : How to get into the Zone

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Author: hunkeelin
Subject: How to get into the Zone
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 2:59am

To reiterate, zone is something you don't worry/care about. It's something even the top levels have no idea. Take a look at this match ML vs FZD. Look at this point https://youtu.be/W4ZqFPevg9k?t=569 During that FZD was in the zone for 2 points. 
Then 
1 point: he get too excited and screw up his pushes 
1 point: he still fail to realize he wasn't in the zone, added too much on his serve and lost his serving point
1 point: Overshoot again

Of the 5 game point he lost, 3 of them are overshoot because he was too excited form the point he won 6-6.


Edited by hunkeelin - 24 minutes ago at 3:03am

For sale : FS: NEW Liu Shiwen ZLF FL + 2 rubbers

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Author: Goodstudent
Subject: FS: NEW Liu Shiwen ZLF FL + 2 rubbers
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 3:18am

Price update!

For sale : Bargain Cut T05/T64m, V07, OSP Virtuoso & More

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Author: Bubb1eTea
Subject: Bargain Cut T05/T64m, V07, OSP Virtuoso & More
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 4:06am

Bump, Prices Reduces, New items Added.

Equipment : The pro's equipment -discussion and questions!

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Author: kakapo
Subject: The pro's equipment -discussion and questions!
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 4:15am

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Wang Manyu switched to Zhang Jike ALC and Gu Yuting switched to Apolonia ZLC at the China National Championships. 

Apolonia ZLC...Franziska, Ding Ning and now Gu Yuting...this blade has become a must have one.

Equipment : DHS H301 Review

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Author: jonyer1980
Subject: DHS H301 Review
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 4:29am

After trying DHS 301/Fang bo 2 in detail, and most Innerforce Series i can fully agree that  they´re not the same, even not that close. The closest is FANG BO 2 due to  blade construction with the outer limba ply  but im afraid that´s the only thing. 

DHS 301/FB2 are quite faster blades, not crazy fast but much more demanding. I would rate DHS as solid OFF and any Innerforce ALC/ZLC or even Fukahara ZLF rated as OFF- even ALL+. They´re clearly one step above them in terms of speed. 

My RW V is faster than any IF but a bit slower than FB2 or 301.


Equipment : Can Frictionalless LP Return be Unloopable

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Author: kakapo
Subject: Can Frictionalless LP Return be Unloopable
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 4:36am

The better way to play against this style of game is: work with non spin balls and placement of the balls.
If the LP is threated (depends of the threatment of course), this will increase the problems for the opponent if he tries to build point with a spin oriented game. 
Here are some keys to be more efficient against this kind of game with threated LP's.

-never use backspin because they will use your spin against you and this could bring you in troubles
-serve with non spin balls , vary the lenght and placement. Most of these players will return your serve with their backhand rubber even if you serve straight toward their FH;
-most of these players rely mostly on their backhand to win points from your mistakes. Just feed them but with non spin balls, long or short ones. 
This tactic is better because it increases the chance he will miss before you. Otherwise, this will also increase the chance the LP player would feel obliged to use more his FH rubber and so...enter in a game which is more classic and profitable to you.
-Work on your flat hits againt non spin balls. That is the key.


Edited by kakapo - 2 hours 57 minutes ago at 4:38am

For sale : FS: lots of fantastic blades

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Author: Magic_M
Subject: FS: lots of fantastic blades
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 4:44am

TRADED = Stiga "Flengtsson" (Fliesen with Bengtsson handle)

ADDED = Butterfly Viscaria (sealed by Michel Detrigne) !!!
= Butterfly Viscaria ST
= Butterfly Apolonia ZLC
= Butterfly Mizutani ZLC
= Butterfly ZJK Super ZLC
= Butterfly Innerforce Layer ALC
= Butterfly Boll Spirit
Butterfly Cresail ST (National Version) !!!
= Butterfly Primorac Off- (black tag, old font on the head and in the lens) !!!
= Nittaku Shake Defence (old version, with nailed tag)
= Nittaku Shake Defence (old version, with nailed tag, reduced head size)
= Nittaku Shake Offence (old version, with nailed tag) + 2x Tenergy 64

= Xiom Zetro Quad

= 2x Dunlop Barna Original


Edited by Magic_M - 2 hours 40 minutes ago at 4:55am

For sale : FS: lots of fantastic blades

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Author: Magic_M
Subject: FS: lots of fantastic blades
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 5:40am

SOLD = Viscaria ST

General : FH counterloop

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Author: blahness
Subject: FH counterloop
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 6:19am

Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

Originally posted by bard romance bard romance wrote:

Originally posted by Basquests Basquests wrote:

Hunkeelin is obviously very insecure.

When i saw a video of his play, dunning kreuger flashed strongly in my mind. 

Hes well below where he should be considering how much time hes spending. 

If he had spent just 300 hrs playing and got to his weakish regular level, id understand being happy. 

I'd actually disagree with you there. He's a pretty good player. Not sure there's any indication of how much time he is spending but what a lot of people who haven't been at that level don't realize is how much effort it requires to move up farther and farther after a certain point. 

Insecure? Far from it. If anything, too secure in the fact that his actions are "promoting TT". Some might disagree there, but to each their own.

I consider myself a barely competent player vs actual high level amateurs / student of the game, yet am pretty certain I'd beat him with ease, and would certainly outperform him if we played say 100 people over time, who are different styles and levels between 2000 and 2400. 

You need to have the mindset of a student regardless, as you need the hunger of not being the finished product. 

There are countless guys in the club that are 60 or 70, and have say played at the international level in their prime, yet still have amazing stamina, footwork. In some respects they are even sharper, as their first step is in their mind and its much faster than 99.9% of amateurs. 

Their breakdown of peoples games and styles and strengths / weaknesses is akin to how chinese nick names have no chill. 'his game too simple' etc. 

When these guys do appreciate something in your game, such as forehand variety or touch, thats something that someone that is worth a million of hunkuneels self serving posts. You treasure it, try to hone this strength and incorporate it into more and more points, whilst also improving everything else so your game is more balanced and technically sound. 

Theese guys didn't get so good ans age so well because they were the most talented and lucky guy. They got there because they were smart and maximizd their potential, even changing what it means to be old. The 70 yr old, 2 years ago got several wins against players of similar caliber to each other, and one that had played and had competitive matches against kanak jha in 2016 (3-1, deuces and aay 40 to 45 % of the pts, in world under 18 or 21 etc). A 68 yr old who plays like 12 matches, in 2 events, in 1 day, and all tge important knockout matches are b07s, and beats 3 out of 4, top level juniors. With a heart condition to boot 


Being proud of your progress and sharing achievements and progress etc is one thing what he is doing is another. Hes self fellating and telling everyone to watch and appreciate. 


This dude is pulling stuff right out of his ass lol. "Beating me with ease" <-- lolololol. Post a vid of yourself hmm? He have no idea whats my current level is at. The me right now would've destroy myself 3 month ago when I get my current rating. 

Anyways to OP. I did some counterlooping drills.
FH counter e.g 1 https://youtu.be/8Alx-D_vK-E?t=963 Most of my made shot is from a good push, but to be clear that push alone would destroy 2000~2100 players easily. My training partner which is 2050 have trouble looping that. Most of them is right off the bounce and not much big swinging. You need to keep your abs tight and move as little arm as possible, most of the movement are legs and waist. 

For big swing counter looping far the table. Here's an example https://youtu.be/5B7HsyYby7Q?t=307 again the swing looks bigger but i didn't use much arms, mostly legs and waist. I miss some because this is early in the morning and I wasn't totally awake. 


More example of FH and BH countering. It starts with a good push to setup, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZi55kKTuw4&feature=youtu.be . However, as you can witness the push is what's important, since most opponent is not going to get that over the net. (Here's a secret, pushing is what gets you over 2k, not looping XD.)

Here's proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m24iFfhaGmQ&feature=youtu.be In the practice match I did not win a single point using my FH counter looping. I did won points off BH counter looping but FH counter looping is just not apparent at the level. I only start using that against opponent of 2200+ caliber.  Against 2150- all I need to do is serve, receive, banana flick a little, loop opening, push long and point is over, not much going on for that level. I am assuming you are not at 2200+ level so just focus on those instead. 





Could you give more detailed tips on stuff that would be helpful to learn this?

To do what? FH counter loop or everything else? Hate to break it to you, you are not going to learn anything over the net. You have to pay for coaching there's no way out of it. I can however teach you how to discern real coach and wannabe coach. Table tennis is a world wide sport, you don't need an english speaking coach to coach you, if you can find a chinese coach (ones that barely speak english and at least usatt 2400+) they are guarentee good coach. My advice, avoid english speaking coaches, most of them are wannabe and doesn't teach you jack ***t.  

Tell me where you located and I can tell you which coach are good. You can also pay classically train kids to train you, they are english speaking and good coaches too. They are young and cheap. 
Lol I love my money more than I love TT ;) I have a practice partner and have improved heaps without any coaching...

Coaching & Tips : Kato Miyu strawberry

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Subject: Kato Miyu strawberry
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 6:23am

Interesting stroke... see this!



I'm starting to use a variation as part of a combo. So the idea is to serve really heavy underspin to the BH short to invite the short push, then use the strawberry flip to the deep FH....

Equipment : Pink Rubber on Table Tennis Rackets - Yes or No?

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Author: blahness
Subject: Pink Rubber on Table Tennis Rackets - Yes or No?
Posted: 07/28/2019 at 6:26am

I bet Adam Bobrows gonna get a pink rubber lol!

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